Post transplant

Dr. Howard Worman

Division of Digestive and Liver Diseases
Departments of Medicine and of Anatomy and Cell Biology
College of Physicians & Surgeons
Columbia University
New York, NY 10032

April 2000

 

Question 25

This may be a radical thought, or maybe one already considered and dismissed for good reason: Since many of us have autoimmune diseases other than just PBC, I was wondering if the drugs used to suppress the immune system after transplant (which probably decreases the chance of PBC recurring) could be used as therapy years before transplant in order to control the symptoms of many of our autoimmune diseases.

 

Answer

Many medical investigators are considering your thought and it is neither "radical" nor has it been "dismissed for good reason." Some of the same drugs used to prevent transplant rejection such as tacrolimus, cyclosporin A and mycophenolate mofetil are being investigated in the treatment of various autoimmune disorders. More studies are necessary at this time.

 

Dr. Howard Worman

Division of Digestive and Liver Diseases
Departments of Medicine and of Anatomy and Cell Biology
College of Physicians & Surgeons
Columbia University
New York, NY 10032

April 2000

 

19. If immunosuppression can help prevent recurrence of PBC, isn't it plausible that immunosuppression could help deter the disease if it were provided in the early stage?

 

Answer

I'm not entirely sure of what you mean by "prevent the recurrence of PBC." I'll assume that you mean after liver transplantation. If so, this is not the same situation from an "immunological point of view" as the natural disease. Proteins on the cells of the transplanted liver that play important roles in recognition by the immune system are different. To put this another way, the new liver may not be susceptible to PBC. In addition, the cellular targets recognized by the immune system in transplant rejection are probably very different from whatever targets are recognized in PBC (nobody know what they are in PBC). Therefore, immunosuppression that keeps allograft rejection in check may not significantly deter the immune response against the liver in PBC.

 

Most trials of immunosuppressive agents to treat PBC have been disappointing. Corticosteroids, azathioprine, cyclosporin A, chlorambucil and methotrexate have all been tested and no trial has shown conclusive positive results. Trials of other immunosuppressive agents are currently in progress.

 

I should also comment the phrase "early stage" in reference to PBC. PBC is never really diagnosed until the person has some liver disease. It’s really not possible at this time to know who might develop PBC before there is already liver involvement.

 

Dr. Marshall Kaplan

Chief, Division of Gastroenterology

New England Medical Center

Boston, MA

December 1999

 

13.) Can PBC reoccur after a transplant and if so, how common is it?

 

Answer

It is very rare for PBC to recur after OLT if adequate immunosuppression is used. I have not seen it in any of the PBC patients who have had transplants at NEMC since 1983. There is some controversy because researchers at UC Davis and Mayo have considered recurrence to have occurred in some of their patients who are well, have normal blood tests and normal liver biopsies but who have a finding on liver biopsy that is only demonstrable using a research technique, immunohistochemistry. In my opinion, no one knows what this finding really means. I would not consider these patients to have recurrent PBC.

 

Dr. Melissa Palmer Answers Our Questions

Specialty: Gastroenterology and Hepatology

Medical advisory board of the ALF New York Chapter

ALF National Chapter Nutrition Education Subcommittee

November 1999

 

1.) I have a question for the doctors, I have no medical background. I was wondering, with a live donor transplant the donor gives part of his/her liver to the person in need and the donor's liver regenerates itself. The transplants liver also takes the new section and regenerates or grows. What would happen to a PBC liver if part of it were surgically removed? Would it regenerate on it own, and would it still have the PBC or would it be disease free? Is this a possibility?

 

Answer

Living- donor transplantation has significantly helped the liver-donor shortage especially in the pediatric are group. It is just recently becoming a more accepted option for adults. Using this technique, for an adult with PBC, for example, the donor, donates part of his or her liver to the PBC patient. The PBC patient has his or her liver totally removed, and the part of the donor's liver put in its place. It will eventually grow to a normal sized liver. Only "part" of the PBC liver is not removed, the whole liver is removed.

 

However, in theory, if part of a PBC liver is surgically removed, if cirrhosis ( stage 4 PBC) were already present, the liver could not regenerate. If cirrhosis were not present, the liver could regenerate, but the newly regenerated liver would still have PBC.

 

Dr. Melissa Palmer Answers Our Questions

Specialty: Gastroenterology and Hepatology

Medical advisory board of the ALF New York Chapter

ALF National Chapter Nutrition Education Subcommittee

November 1999

 

4.) We know that PBC is an Auto Immune Disease. If our Immune systems are attacking our liver, why is it that we think a Liver Transplant would fix our problem doesn't it seem to reason that the immune system would then attack our new liver? Couldn't this then be the reason that we have some recurring PBC cases Post Transplant?

 

Answer

This is a very good question that has sparked much debate among hepatologists for many years. It does appear that PBC can recur in the new liver. However, since this disease is so slowly progressive, it will take many years for any significant damage and/or symptoms to occur, if they occur at all. Therefore, a liver transplant would certainly fix the problem for most individuals.

 

Dr. Howard Worman

Division of Digestive and Liver Diseases
Departments of Medicine and of Anatomy and Cell Biology
College of Physicians & Surgeons
Columbia University
New York, NY 10032

April 2000

 

24. Is Actigall or Urso normally used in a blocked bile duct after transplant? How successful are stints? At this time are there any other treatments available?

 

Answer

Biliary obstruction ("blocked bile duct") occurs in about 15% to 25% of patients after liver transplantation. Endoscopically placed stents are sometimes successful in relieving the blockage. I cannot give a precise answer as to "how successful" stents are. Balloon dilation of the obstruction is another treatment that sometimes works. Surgical reconstruction is very often the treatment of choice for bile duct obstruction after liver transplantation. Ursodiol (Actigall or Urso) is probably of little or no benefit in large bile duct obstruction that occurs after liver transplantation.

 

Dr. Howard Worman

Division of Digestive and Liver Diseases
Departments of Medicine and of Anatomy and Cell Biology
College of Physicians & Surgeons
Columbia University
New York, NY 10032

April 2000

 

Question 42

Other than URSO what is the treatment to lower indirect bilirubin in a post transplant PBC person?

 

Answer

There are many causes of elevated bilirubin concentrations. Elevated bilirubin in the blood per se is NOT something that is treated, except in infants in whom very high concentrations of bilirubin can cause problems with the undeveloped nervous system.

 

If a patient has an elevated serum bilirubin in blood post-transplant or otherwise, a diagnostic work-up must be performed to determine the causes. The underlying cause is treated. URSO (ursodiol) is NOT indicated to "lower the bilirubin" in any condition. It is used in PBC because in several studies it has been shown to slow the progression of the disease, not because it lowers the blood bilirubin concentration.

 

Nancy Bach, M.D.

Specialty Liver Diseases  

The Mount Sinai Medical Center

New York, New York 10029

February 2000

 

17) If you have diseases such as gerd, sojgrens, arthritis etc., that seem to be triggered with the onset of PBC, do they go away or diminish after transplant?

 

Answer

To the extent that certain diseases associated with PBC would respond to the immunosuppression used after a transplant, some symptoms might resolve. For example, if one had rheumatoid arthritis, prednisone used after the transplant might ameliorate some symptoms. Gastroesophageal reflux disease (GERD) is not linked to PBC and would probably not resolve after transplant. I don't think anyone has looked specifically at Sjogrens syndrome; perhaps we should. I would guess the symptoms would not change since diseases associated with PBC are just that, associated but not caused by PBC, and they tend to run their own courses.

 

Alfred L. Baker, M.D.

Division of Gastroenterology & Hepatology

Northwestern Memorial Hospital

Chicago, IL

2000-2001

 

Question 17

Since everything is processed through the liver, is there any reason a pre or post transplant PBC patient should avoid hair color, or nail polish?

 

Answer

We recommend that all patients who receive liver transplants avoid hair coloring and permanents for the first few weeks after the procedure. Otherwise, patients with PBC do not need to avoid these cosmetic enhancements.

 

David Bernstein, M.D.
Chief, Division of Gastroenterology
North Shore University Hospital
Manhasset, NY
7/13/2003

 

Question 2:
For patients who have suffered from severe itching prior to transplant….is there a percentage that still suffer from itching after transplant?

Answer 2
PBC patients with severe pruritus who undergo transplantation should have complete resolution of pruritus following the surgery. The mechanism of pruritus is unclear but it is related to advanced liver disease or the inability to appropriately process substances which cause itching. Therefore, the new liver should not be affected. Rarely, itching can occur after transplantation but this
is usually secondary to the immunosuppressive agents being used, not the return of PBC.

David Bernstein, M.D.
Chief, Division of Gastroenterology
North Shore University Hospital
Manhasset, NY
7/14/2002


QUESTION 26
Do PBC patients with their overactive immune systems have more rejection episodes than other liver transplants?

ANSWER
Unlike patients with autoimmune hepatitis, PBC patients do not have more episodes of rejection than other liver transplant recipients. PBC patients, in general, do very well after liver transplantation and have excellent 1 and 5 year survival rates.